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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:41 am    Post subject: Poltergeist activity Reply with quote

I was checking out this guys videos on youtube and was about ready to call them fake until objects started flying in weird directions and even flying up out of the drawers and hitting the ceiling. I'm not calling this poltergeist activity real, I'm just trying to figure out ways they could be faked. Yeah the string trick gets used to create poltergeist activity but certain things in these videos seem legit.



I think that video was mentioned on Fact Or Faked but who cares if they dismissed it or not, they have been wrong before. Here's another one that doesn't really show anything but look at all the orbs flying around his house. Little white balls.



This next one is very convincing, notice how the object at 12 seconds in starts to get pushed off the edge until it quickly gets thrown back the other way. That seems like it would be really hard to fake.



Most of the other poltergeist videos I seen from other people seem to look fake or you can think of ways that they faked it but I have a feeling about this guy's video that they could be for real.

This next video is from a different person and whether it's real or not, it's pretty scary if your home alone when it happens....




I got more videos but it's getting late.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe in ghost, orbs, apparitions, manifestations,aliens and the likes strongly, but these videos are laughably fake, the 2nd one the orbs are 100% Abobe after effects generated or a similar program, and the last one is overly acted and nothing special and seems obviously fake. But thats just my opinion.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe in ghosts and stuff like that, but the stuff on youtube is all fake. I don't believe one vid on youtube is legit. The frequency of a ghost would not be able to be seen on a video recorder. The equipment must surpass all other technology so far to day if ghost are to be proven in existence.
When you die don't you usually go to heaven, hell or purgatory?
Anyway people like this are just making fun of people who actually believe and study ghosts. They make others think there not real because of stupid and obvious things.
For each of these vids they are digitally enhanced. Pretty that someone would actually do that in there free time Rolling Eyes Ma Dai! it's pretty obvious that there are some sneaky tricks to making a Fake ghost vid. I can't stand people who do this, they have nothing better to do, seriously? Anyway ghosts do exist.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow this is the exact response I was expecting. Laughing

Neither one of your guys' replies look very good. So obviously all the ghost videos on youtube are fake? Where's the proof at? Yeah a lot of them are fake but all of them obviously? You can't make a claim like that without some kind of proof to back it up. The people who make fake videos make it harder for people to believe a video that might be real, that's the problem.

MindOverMatter, if all those videos are laughably fake then why didn't you go into detail about how he faked the videos? He didn't just use thin string to put things off and make them go flying across the room. One object gets pulled one way then goes flying back the opposite way in the direction of the back of the shelf and wall. It's little moments like that that make me wonder if the videos are real or not.

I can't guarantee that the orbs are real but show proof that they aren't or at least tell me how you know they're fake. That last video doesn't actually show anything moving completely on it's own but real or not, the video is pretty damn cool and that guy sounds genuinely scared or could just be a good actor.

In no way has poltergeist activity been proven to be fake and easily explained. I don't FULLY believe in poltergeists myself but I do believe it can be real. I'm just looking for videos that may show something that is unexplainable.


Guys it doesn't matter what video I post on here, people will say it's obviously fake and stupid. I'm not asking you to believe at all but if you want to post in this thread then maybe try having more of an open mind about poltergeists and the possibilities. If it hasn't been proven to be fake yet then I will always wonder and look into it.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Destroyer, I'll be the first person to believe this kind of stuff trust me, but that's if I feel it's real by my own observation and intuition. And no not all youtube videos are fake.The 1st video, within the first minute it was edited as you can see by the chair swiftly jerking to the floor and not looking as if it's in "Real-Time" also for 100% proof, you see a little white object quickly appear after the chair falls, look to the left of the sink on the counter(Common Mistake of video editing trying to make it seem as if it's real time)There is also a glitch in the shadow on the left side of that mini fridge(Is that a mini fridge? lol) right to the left of the chair, yet another sign of "stop" video editing. Also these are all from the same guy so I don't need to scrutinize the rest of them to figure out if they are fake, because if ones fake they all are.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Destroyer, I'll be the first person to believe this kind of stuff trust me, but that's if I feel it's real by my own observation and intuition. And no not all youtube videos are fake.The 1st video, within the first minute it was edited as you can see by the chair swiftly jerking to the floor and not looking as if it's in "Real-Time" also for 100% proof, you see a little white object quickly appear after the chair falls, look to the left of the sink on the counter(Common Mistake of video editing trying to make it seem as if it's real time)There is also a glitch in the shadow on the left side of that mini fridge(Is that a mini fridge? lol) right to the left of the chair, yet another sign of "stop" video editing. Also these are all from the same guy so I don't need to scrutinize the rest of them to figure out if they are fake, because if ones fake they all are.


The whole reason for posting these videos was to see what members here could come up with to explain how they are faked. I never said these videos were real either. The last video isn't from the same guy it's from someone else. I posted that video just because I thought it was a little freaky whether it's real or not. I guess because of the thought of being home alone and having most of the lights off when that stuff starts to happen. Thanks for explaining this time how that video is fake, that's what I wanted to see in your first post. I still wonder about that moment in the bathroom video at 12 seconds though. I'd like to know how he faked that.

This next video is the most legit one I have ever seen. I'm no expert with video camera's and editing but this guy put the timer and the date up on his camera to show he didn't edit the video but I'm not saying he didn't use some type of trick but check this out......



EDIT: I forgot about the cussing in the video I posted so I deleted it. If you want to see it then let me know and I will send you a message. Unless if I can just post the link to it, not sure if that's allowed or not since I've seen others do it in the past and not get in trouble.

MindOverMatter I sent you a message with the video.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some of these could be real but i noticed on a few some things like on the 3rd one if you turn the volume up you can hear what sounds like a pellet gun being shot when the bottle jumps back into the cabinet

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

carltontx wrote:
some of these could be real but i noticed on a few some things like on the 2nd one if you turn the volume up you can hear what sounds like a pellet gun being shot when the bottle jumps back into the cabinet


I don't hear any pellet gun. Also look at the toilet paper. It looks like someone slapped it down with their hand and somehow pulling the paper with a string would rip the paper off. It seems almost impossible to tie a string to the roll and make it do that.


I've never had a paranormal experience myself except for one in a cemetery at night that was really weird but I'm not totally sure if it was paranormal but I know of a few people that are credible and normal people that have seen or experienced paranormal things.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

perhaps but the toilet paper could be faked easy with thin fish line taped to the back so not to show on the front. which would explain why only a little bit of tissue on the roll. any more and it would of torn off when the fish line was pulled.

the one part that i could not explain was the candle on the back of the toilet. and that is only because it is hard to tell if it is a real flame or if it could be an electric light being controlled with a remote. i did not note any flickering as stuff was falling around it but i did notice a flicker near then end as the window shut and the basket fell ( which happened almost at the same time) as if shutting the window caused the basket to fall or vice verse


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

carltontx wrote:
perhaps but the toilet paper could be faked easy with thin fish line taped to the back so not to show on the front. which would explain why only a little bit of tissue on the roll. any more and it would of torn off when the fish line was pulled


Check out this video, it's the most convincing one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9snrsv_of0&feature=channel_video_title
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

did not see anything on that one that can't be explained. if you notice in the kitchen the big door that your accomplice could come through and open all the cabinets and drawers as you are videoing the living room.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

carltontx wrote:
did not see anything on that one that can't be explained. if you notice in the kitchen the big door that your accomplice could come through and open all the cabinets and drawers as you are videoing the living room.


Wow I can't believe you missed the obvious! Ignore the cabinets, look at the video games stacked on top of each other within about 4 seconds. It happens twice.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

turn your volume up real loud as the camera is headed to the stairs when the screen goes completely black you can hear a click as if the camera's record button was pressed granted it looks as if it is a solid taping but i would bet a dollar to a donut it was taped in two parts. even tho listen and watch real close when he makes the comment about those thing stacking again he starts making the comment even before he has left the hallway/stairway. therefore he already knew they were stacked even before he showed it on the cam.

oh yeah and i thought it was funny that it sounded as if he was reading from a script and he said stocked instead of stacked and then he corrected himself
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

carltontx wrote:
turn your volume up real loud as the camera is headed to the stairs when the screen goes completely black you can hear a click as if the camera's record button was pressed granted it looks as if it is a solid taping but i would bet a dollar to a donut it was taped in two parts. even tho listen and watch real close when he makes the comment about those thing stacking again he starts making the comment even before he has left the hallway/stairway. therefore he already knew they were stacked even before he showed it on the cam.

oh yeah and i thought it was funny that it sounded as if he was reading from a script and he said stocked instead of stacked and then he corrected himself


Jesus Christ!!!! You missed it again. I noticed THAT part can be edited but the FIRST time it happens is much more convincing!!!! Watch again and look for the first time he sees the games are stacked.

Are you just avoiding the more legit part of the video on purpose?

The script reading thing.....he said stacked wrong I think because he was saying it as he noticed the games stacked again. I have pronounced a word wrong plenty of times when I get startled by something while talking. Just sayin' man.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no not avoiding it i just know that i have stacked over 30 ps2 games up and moved them with no problem both by pushing them across the floor as well as picking them up so nothing there.

just the way the video is shot tells me the person operating the camera had a accomplice because of the way he was moving as if trying to get out of their way at certain points. and right before he went back into the kitchen you can hear the kitchen door shut.

look at the way they were stacked the first time and the 2nd time the first time time they looked as if they had been slid the 2nd time it looks as if a shorter stack has been placed on top of the ones that did not tumble over when the cameraman pushed them over. also the first stack was with all the titles turned the same way the 2nd time they were all messed up as if stacked in a hurry


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